Did Bob De Carolis send Mike Riley into the lion's den with the Michigan game?
Comments went off on my blog last week when the Oregon State football team announced it scheduled a trip to Michigan in 2015 with no return date.
And rightfully so.
I’m sure the Beavers are getting a good piece of change to go to Ann Arbor. You could argue that the money is not needed with the Pac-12 Networks money. However, you always need more money.
If looking at the books and it helps the checking account, OK. The football team will take one on the chin again so the entire athletic department can run.
Take the financial bottom line out of it, and that’s not a game that’s needed. The Beavers need wins to get six wins every year for bowl eligibility. They need an I-AA team on the schedule and a lower level mid-major such as San Jose State, Idaho or UNLV.
OSU needs those two wins because the Pac-12 and Big Ten started up a scheduling agreement starting in 2017. So that creates a high probability of a loss.
And this was debated. OSU will be breaking in a new QB. Sean Mannion’s fifth year will be 2014. AD Bob De Carolis usually takes that under consideration, so the money must be good.
66 comments
kersting13 says:
Jul 3, 2012
I’m pretty sure the Big 10-Pac 12 scheduling agreement doesn’t happen until after 2015, so there won’t be a 2nd trip to Big Ten Territory in 2015.
Did you ever reconcile our scholarship numbers??
bbb says:
Jul 14, 2012
not at you kersitng13,
cliff,
I keep hearing about the p12 tv money and its starting to annoy me. doesnt every team get that money? if so its no advantage. we need MORE money from other sources to compete with the p12. as it stands the rich can use that money in all kinds of ways that will further set them apart from the likes of osu, wsu, and utah. we need that money to pay for the basics. this money does not improve our situation when you consider the big picture. agreed?
BeaverDon says:
Jul 3, 2012
Whe is this not part of the Pac-12 Big 10 agreement? The Beavers will be scheduling a Big-10 team on a home and home basis so why go to Ann Arbor for this game? And how exactly does this give the Beaver fans a chance to see the Beavers play in Ann Arbor? Okay, maybe on TV but how many will actually travel to the game? There was a big deal make about the connections between OSU and Michigan, mostly between BDC and Michigan. If connections are important why not schedule a home and home with Kentucky?
I really thought we were done with these types of games. I didn’t like the Penn State or LSU games and like this even less. In all the announcements I have yet to see a dollar amount on this game, just how much does it cost for the Beavers to sell their pride?
alvernaz3 says:
Jul 3, 2012
Please, please schedule a home and away with Kentucky!!!!!
sanjait says:
Jul 3, 2012
People need to quit whining. Big matchups in football are fun, even if we’ve been on the wrong end of some road whippings in recent history (although we were THIS close to knocking off LSU!). Michigan is a name-brand team, they have a huge stadium, and we’ll probably lose but we just might win so I’m definitely going to be there.
jim says:
Jul 3, 2012
let them play ball, cant win a big game playing Idaho or UNLV. yeah it doesnt set up well but come on…..
None says:
Jul 3, 2012
Anyone think that Michigan might he scared to play us at reser? It may not be true, but that is how I’m going to spin it.
Bone says:
Jul 3, 2012
Darn smart phone auto correct
OSU4Life says:
Jul 3, 2012
The problem with OSU scheduling “Death Trap” games, or becoming the sacrificial lamb only to be slaughtered, is that OSU NEVER wins these types of games! If OSU pulled out a win every once in a while in these types of games, then it might be worth it. OSU must win this game for it to be worth it, and for it to matter, otherwise they are wasting their time and more importantly wasting another football season. I thought we were finished with “Moral Victories” and we put 28 consecutive losing seasons behind us back in 1999? In order for OSU Football to come of age, to take the next step, it must schedule home and home games with the big boys, or play them at a neutral site. What perception does the college football world, the AP voters have of OSU when they NEVER win the big away games, always have slow start seasons, hardly ever win decisively? If and when OSU ever has another anomaly type of a season like they did in 2000, they won’t get the respect that they deserve. This is a reason why. OSU must win the big games, the games when everything is on the line, the games they are supposed to, and the games when they are the underdog to gain respect. If they win (it is a Huge “IF”) then all of the negativity goes away. If they lose, why did they once again throw the entire program underneath the bus for a payout?
OSUSupporter says:
Jul 3, 2012
I hate the fact that now ESPN has a “DuckNation” site……they only have these for the very few, very select, top tier teams. Do you suppose they are considering us for a similar site? Funny, but from my view, the rest of the Pac12 as well as the rest of the nation looks down on OSU. So what does BDC do? He schedules an early season away game with the NCAA team with the most wins in history. In front of almost 110,000 fans. Wtih no return game. We not only look like a sorry mid-major team looking for a payday but stupid and led by fools. Thanks BDC, you are the reason we are in this pickle.
BeaverDon says:
Jul 3, 2012
Looks like a mid-major…..I wish. It makes us look like a 1-AA team
AndySnacks says:
Jul 3, 2012
I seem to remember a 1-AA team going into Michigan and winning a few years back……
I’m all for scheduling games like this. It’s a chance for fans to see the Beavs in one of the most historic stadiums in the country. I’ve seen plenty of games in Reser (there’s six or seven every year), but this might be the only chance I have to convince my wife that I need to see a game at the Big House.
Tagup says:
Jul 3, 2012
While I don’t necessarily agree with this type of scheduling, winning this type of game will give more attention and credibility to the program than beating up some directional state teams. It may not seem like it now, but this is a winnable game, and I also think playing in the big house could be used as a recruiting tool.
BeaverDon says:
Jul 3, 2012
When did OSU win one of this type of games?
Beavergopher says:
Jul 3, 2012
Ah……..never?
BeaverDon says:
Jul 3, 2012
Exactly!
Pos0x45 says:
Jul 3, 2012
Oh no, the sky is falling…
bbb says:
Jul 3, 2012
cliff,
I really feel that the focus should remain on getting a program together that can compete with these teams. I think people are tired of their team being led to the slaughter sort of speak. that is a symptom of a larger issue. if little ole boise state can play anyone anywhere and not get their doors blown (almost never) then why can’t we? that is an honest question that i have never heard a decent answer to.
Joey5Picks says:
Jul 3, 2012
“The football team will take one on the chin again…”
“…the Pac-12 and Big Ten started up a scheduling agreement starting in 2017. So that creates a high probability of a loss.”
That’s loser talk. That’s typical of the attitude many Beaver fans have. “We can’t beat the ‘big boys’ so we shouldn’t schedule those games.” That’s saying we’re San Jose State, Wyoming or UNLV.
fahlgren says:
Jul 3, 2012
Well since we have never won one of these big non-conference games in the entire Riley era (or ever?) I don’t think it’s a stretch to think we will lose this game. Obviously people would be thrilled if we won it, and it’s way to early to debate whether we can or cannot win, but history says we lose…big.
Pos0x45 says:
Jul 3, 2012
2001 Fiesta Bowl Oregon State beats Notre Dame (I know,DE coached but most of the players that played were MR recruits
2004 Insight Bowl Oregon State beats Notre Dame (ok, to be fair, MR coached, many DE recruits)
2006 Sun Bowl Oregon State beats Missouri
2007 Emerald Bowl Oregon State beats Maryland
2008 Sun Bowl Oregon State beats Pitt
Riley in 2003 also came within 1 point of beating #3 LSU at LSU.
I suppose using your logic the big name teams that MR beat were just crappy that year. And LSU doesn’t count since they lost. Well, you know what? You have no idea what Michigan or OSU are going to be like for that game either. So basically, all you’re doing is complaining. I would think that those that hate the program and spend so much time complaining for no reason other than the last two years, are fans of the wrong team. Go root for the Ducks, just don’t come back when OSU pulls the upset and beats them this year.
bbb says:
Jul 3, 2012
Pos0x45,
you were reaching in this entire post but you jumped the shark when you point out a loss as an agrument to not winning big games. close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades bro. bottom line is that LSU game was an “L”. they did compete that game but blew it at the end. its a loss. plain and simple. please do not use that game in any pro-riley arguments you may have. its a waste of yours and everyone else’s time.
fahlgren says:
Jul 3, 2012
All great bowl games, but we are talking about early season non-conference games. I’m not saying that MR can’t win big games, just ask USC.
Also, if you noticed, I said that it was too early to make predictions about the game.
BeaverDon says:
Jul 3, 2012
Would you please cite the last time the Beavers won one of these non-conference games.
Bone says:
Jul 3, 2012
Even though we haven’t won any recently, we can’t stop scheduling them. To be the best you have to beat the best.
AndyPanda says:
Jul 3, 2012
Time to interject a couple of facts.
Coach Riley has only once in his 11 seasons as head coach at Oregon St. posted a winning record in games played before October.
Much more alarming, his record away from Reser prior to October is 1-15, with the narrow 23-21 win at a terrible UNLV team the lone victory he has in those games.
Beavergopher says:
Jul 3, 2012
Please don’t use facts Andy. This is for “feelings” only.
Bone says:
Jul 3, 2012
Well sports cannot be determined by stats. If stats determined outcomes of games before they started then why even play the games? You play the games because anything could happen. Upsets happens, that’s why people watch games. We may seemed outmatched by Michigan right now, but they have fallen on their face during preseason games in the past. Sports aren’t black and white there are huge grey areas. This is why sports are great, anything can happen on any given day. Less than 2 months everyone, IM PUMPED!
bone says:
Jul 3, 2012
go tell your kid when they have to play an opponent where they are over matched, “sorry but you are never going to win this game, history says you never will, they have a better record, yadda yadda yadda”. I guess that’s one approach you can take.
OSU4Life says:
Jul 3, 2012
BeaverDon,
OSU has NEVER won a Big non conference game on the road, Never. Maybe before WWII, but that would require a lot of research. None of us posting on this blog were even alive or born since the last time OSU won a Big non-conference game on the road! (Excluding Bowl Games for P0sx045) That is pathetic, and just flat out embarrassing!
Don Miller says:
Jul 4, 2012
OSU beat Purdue @ Purdue in 1967 when they were No. 2 in the nation – I guess that qualifies as the mdoern era?
Cliff's Daddy says:
Jul 3, 2012
at some point a couple of years into his second tenure Riley was forced to only recruit “character” recruits, whatever that means. The Beavs were racking up wins against the Organ D*cks and the state legislature and the oregronian had a campaign of pointing fingers at alleged behavior issues with the OS team above and beyond what happens with many college football teams.
That was around 2007. You will notice that was around the time about 3 years later when the talent started to thin out and also the toughness level of the program in general tanked. Whereas Riley 1 and Erickson teams never lacked an edge and at the very least played with some pride the last few teams seemed to be composed of players that dont seem to show any surprise or dissatisfaction on the field while losing 55-0 (coaches laughing too) or even stand up for their own player getting cheaped out of bounds AT HOME (Jacquizz Rogers vs WSU).
Seems like this program will only take choir boys now instead of considering anybody who isnt a felon and is a player. This reduces the chances of competing against the rich schools greatly.
Hell even Stanford started letting real football players in the door when Harbaugh demanded it as a prenup to him taking the job there.
I do not blame Riley for this but he has to understand the problem with accepting this shackle.
Beavergopher says:
Jul 3, 2012
So we need to recruit players who have sexual attractions to gay sheep? That may narrow the pool of potential recruits. Perhaps they implemented this policy this year? That would explain our massive commit list.
bone says:
Jul 4, 2012
that’s pretty good beavergopher. It would explain a lot if that is the route they are taking.
Beavergopher says:
Jul 3, 2012
Booby D. Please schedule Ohio State at the shoe. I love having both my alma maters get the crapped kicked out of them by the same team in the same season. Oh yeah, thanks again for the Wisconsin series. Perhaps you can schedule a nonconf. game against the Ducks so the can kick our butts twice a year. The stadium would be full, and after all it’s all about the bottom line.
Halverbk says:
Jul 4, 2012
While I would love to have OSU play tOSU in Columbus (grad school there after Corvallis), I am looking forward to the Michigan game. One and done is not desirable, but Michigan would take such a bath coming to Corvallis due to the 65,000 less in attendance. I went to the last Oregon State – Michigan game after just arriving in Columbus. Had a great time because we still had Oregon license plates. If we had changed to Ohio plates, I wonder if the car would have been there after the game.
Assuming there are 3 non-conference games each year, I think BDC has said he prefers one marquee matchup, one mid-major, and one 1-AA on the schedule each year. If we win the other 2 games and lose to Michigan, we only have to win our 4 home games to probably make it to a bowl. Not that difficult. And if we beat Michigan….
While Michigan appears to be back from the bad years, I am looking forward to the trip. It is NOT our first (or even second) game which is huge in getting ready for this game. It will be their third game as well so they will be ready for us. Having to break in a new QB is the big issue.
Here is to rooting for the Beavs and whomever is playing Michigan!
Brad
Mike says:
Jul 3, 2012
Rather than scheduling the best team in a big name conference (Michigan, LSU, Wisconsin), let’s start scheduling teams that are at our level out of the power conferences and have a home/home relationship – middle of conference teams. We are not USC and there is no reason to play Alabama or Michigan. That said, we are not at the UNLV or New Mexico State either. There is middle ground. It seems to me that scheduling a home and home with Texas Tech, Kansas State or Miss State would be a good thing from a competitiveness standpoint. Granted, we won’t be taking a huge payday, but it would be an improvement in the schedule than Eastern Washington, but have more of a change at winning.
Oregon State under Coach Riley, whom I think is a good coach, is not Boise State. They somehow do much more with similar talent levels than we do. We are not going to beat Va Tech or Oklahoma. However, having middling power-conference teams on the docket on a home and home basis creates a rivalry where we can compete.
ChrisOSAlum says:
Jul 3, 2012
Let’s say we lose to Michigan and miss out on a bowl. What’s the payout for playing Michigan vs. not playing in a bowl? My point is that it probably doesn’t pay in the end scheduling games like this.
Tagup says:
Jul 5, 2012
Unfortunately I agree….until strength of schedule becomes a consideration, the SEC model of out of conference games should be followed. That is pretty much what the ducks have done as well.
OS_Beaver says:
Jul 3, 2012
I don’t at all agree with saying OSU only needs to make a “major” bowl once every 10 years. That is too low a standard for BCS bowls or the equivalent moving forward after playoffs start. But to call the Holiday Bowl a major bowl when it really is just the new Sun Bowl doesn’t pass the smell test. The Sun Bowl has always been a mid-level bowl and now is even lower where it is barely above mediocre. If Riley made the Sun 2 years out of 3, why are we lowering the standard to say it OK to make what is now essentialy the same level Bowl in the Holiday only one year in 10. The Alamo bowl is the new Holiday bowl and all Beaver fans I know cosidered the Holiday before and now the Alamo as the start of the actually higher quality bowls.
Riley or whoever replaces him at OSU should be able to make a Holiday.Bowl once every 4 years at minimum and an Alamo Bowl once every 5 or 6 years. The one thing we can’t do is lower Riley’s already too low expectations even further. If you tack 6 years onto Riley’s 11 so far that would allow up to 17 years to make an Alamo and 15 years to make a now easier Holiday bowl. That is WAY too much time! Good coaches don’t need time besides a year or two. Kelly won the Pac -10 in Year 1. Alot of oher good coaches prove it early. Harbaugh also achieved a high mark very quickly and sustained it.
There is nothing specal at this stage of Riley’s career that many other coaches could not replicate and also improve on in areas. I don’t think there are that many schools that need to keep a coach for more than 8 years unless he is sustaining at higher level bowls. After too many years it just is time for new blood and energy or your program starts regressing as is happening to OSU now. If we ever want to take the next step we need to allow the torch to be passed on.
HeartofBeaver says:
Jul 3, 2012
bowl game payouts don’t make much of a difference (economically) to participating school becuase PAC12 revenue shares bowl payouts (and lower tier bowls pay out is maybe $600K), obviously a lot of other good that comes from bowl games (extra practice time, almumni excitment, etc.) but it’s not accurate that Micgican payout is like going to a bowl.
MIchigan payout is probably about $1.5M (like a major bowl)…but assuming conservatively we only clear $1M from the game, to make that up then we’d need to 5 people on this site wanting us to not play at Michigan AND 95 of their close friends each increase their donation by $10,000 each. I sure for most of the people who post on Cliff’s blogs an extra $10,000 to OS Athletics is no big deal–but we need to 100 people like that.
That PAC12 TV money is soooooooo already spent. There is the Athletic Department deficet, there’s the fact the the University/state wants to stop subsidizing Atheltics, there’s the plan to add sports like track, there’s the fact that most of our coaches (head and assistant) are paid less than their comperables at similar schools (a number that will probably increase with PAC12 TV money and then there is the need to keep up with the Jones (or other derogitory name) to attact top athletes.
The athletic department agrees to these away only games because we really need the money and it’s good exposure for the school–since we don’t have the football tradition or the glitz of certain other schools we need to do other things to make sure we’re talked about on ESPN other national media.
and I believe we can win some of these games…and as we painfully remember from this last year, even if we instead schedule a cupcake it’s not guarenteed a victory–at least if you lose to a good team on the road pundants don’t penatlize you too much. And we have played some home and away with the non-powerhouse teams in the BCS conferences, we have Minnesota coming up later in the decade for a home and away. We played Louisville on a home and away (although we were dominated as much as any game in the modern era at Louisville).
If your concerned about tough games, we stop scheduling boise state–even in a home and away–payoff is not good enough to justify a near certain loss on the road and a very tough game at home (no one can tell me that winning at Boise State is any easier than winning at LSU or TCU or Penn State).
heartofbeaver says:
Jul 3, 2012
We’ve never won any of these big out one and done on the road games against top teams…That may be true, but I count that we’ve only played 3 of them in the mdoern era…Wisconsin is home and away, Louisville & Cincinati home and away; Boise State, Utah and Fresno State a (back in the day when they were good) were home and away…by everyone’s response I assume I must have missed a couple, but what are they? It’s not like 0-3 to-date means we’ll never win one fo them…in fact, except for a nearly impossible last minutes collapse (not to mention 3 missed extra points) we would have beaten LSU. TCU didn’t play very well, that game was VERY winnnable if if we’d played just a little above average. Which leaves Penn State as the only one and done away game that we showed no chance of winning.
BeaverDon says:
Jul 4, 2012
You are looking at the 2000′s for your 0-3 record. This type of scheduling went on in the 90′s, 80′s, 70′s and even the 60′s (when we beat Purdue who was ranked #2 at the time). OSU should be done with this type scheduling. Dennis Erickson refused to accept any games where the teams would not return the game. so the Beavers had a break for several years from these types of games.
I would also make the case for the Penn State game costing the Beavers a Rose Bowl berth. In ordet to schedule the Penn State game the Beavers had to shake up their schedule. One change move the Stanford game to the Beavers opening game of the season. The Beavers have been a terrible team in September and they lost at Stanford. Win that game and the Beavers are in the Rose Bowl even with a loss to the Ducks. Play the Stanfordt game in October, as originally scheduled the Beavers have a much to win.
And what do the Beavers get from the Penn State game? Crushed on National TV and a big pay day.
pfbeaver says:
Jul 4, 2012
…The football team will take one on the chin again so the entire athletic department can run. Take the financial bottom line out of it, and that’s not a game that’s needed. …
Yep. Sometimes the fans wish that our AD would have a little better financial bottom line in his sights. If we scheduled a winable game here, perhaps we could get to a bowl game. Getting to a bowl game every year, might put more butts in seats in Reser. It might justify raising ticket prices. Instead something like last year happens. Something where football goes 5/12 and Bobby D decides to raise my seats $250 per year.
We, the fans, aren’t even asking for that. All we are complaining about is that we don’t go home and home with big programs. If we were good enough to do away games, and win them it would be a different matter. We are not that good. Our track record has proven that. Do other teams across the country look at scheduling the beavs for an at home game as they just bought a win? I sure hope not, but that’s the feel these have about them. We don’t like a program we love looking like a chump.
pfbeaver says:
Jul 4, 2012
Gack. I meant to say 2010 instead of last year, but I forgot to change it. Sorry about that.
SoOrAaron says:
Jul 4, 2012
First, by 2015 we’ll either have Riley with a re invigorated, sucessfull program, or a new coach. So I like this game, generally speaking. Either way it fits those scenarios. Yes, we’re clearly being treated as the little guy. What do you expect after two loosing seasons?
Second, the Boise area is the third largest metro area in the Greater Pacific Northwest. Quit calling them Podunk. It’s got way more going than both Eugene and Corvallis combined. If you disagree, you simply haven’t been there recently.
Third, comparing a few wins over traditional powerhouses in down years is not a strong argument.
The simple fact is, we’re going to learn a lot about where this public universitys football team is headed with what transpires this year. Only time will tell. I emphasize “public university” so people are clear we’re not talking about a private professional program like the Trailblazers.
Smurfturf says:
Jul 4, 2012
Been to Boise amigo, got a bro that lives there. I take Corvallis over Boise anytime. ALL Boise has to offer is Boise St. football, and dog parades…
Tagup says:
Jul 5, 2012
and easier academic standards….
SoOrAaron says:
Jul 5, 2012
Good point, but still not Podunk.
Beaver93/04 says:
Jul 4, 2012
It’s probably too early to predict an outcome for this game, but gut feel says I’d be more excited about it if DE was in charge. Riley is great behind the mic, but I had more confidence in the big games with DE’s players and coaching. Blast away. I’m sure I’m wrong. My gut says otherwise.
BeaverDon says:
Jul 4, 2012
DE would not have accepted scheduling this game. If a team would not schedule home and home he would not schedule them.
As for your gut, Riley has proven he cannot win in September. If this game later in the season, maybe. But in September? History is not on the Beavers side.
OS_Beaver says:
Jul 4, 2012
OSU has too low of standards:
http://beaverbyte.com
Pos0x45 says:
Jul 5, 2012
OS_Beaver, why would anyone want to spend time reading your blog? I visited one day and it didn’t take long to tire of reading it. You don’t offer any kind of rational reasoning for backing any of your conclusions, you just gripe about things not being the way you want them to be. If I want to suffer a bunch of complaining I can just go spend $2000 on a new tv without telling my wife.
OSU4Life says:
Jul 5, 2012
P.O.S.
Why don’t you start up your own blog and see if you can do any better? Or you could offer to help him out? If you don’t like his blog, then don’t go in there! Plain and simple. You look like a *uck troll putting him down on someone else’s blog, and you look like a small man. Just because you disagree, doesn’t mean there aren’t hundreds or thousands of other Beaver fans who share the opinions of his blog. OS_Beaver, you just keep on keepin on! Oh, and one last thing…. “Go Beavs” to all!
Pos0x45 says:
Jul 5, 2012
OSU4Life
You are correct about slamming OS_Beaver, OS_Beaver I apologize. And, I do see a good reason for using your site. I really do get that you guys are not happy with MR and BDC. I’ve heard that message hundreds of times. I don’t want to have to wade through post after post to find comments concerning football, the state of the team, info about players etc. Maybe you guys that post complaint after complaint about the same thing could do it over at OS_Beaver’s site and cut down on the pollution over here.
bbb says:
Jul 5, 2012
seriosly? xxxxx Being upset about the state of osu, its coach, its recruiting, and AD IS football realted.
Beavs Believe says:
Jul 6, 2012
So go over to OS_Beaver’s site and complain about it. The point is that you people could make the most uninteresting thing absolutely intolerable. I bet you just walk through the aisles of the grocery store complaining about the prices.
We want to talk football here. Not talk about how much you hate the entire OS football program. It gets old.
Tagup says:
Jul 9, 2012
Hold on now OSU4…..POS’s opinion is valid….OSBeav is the guy that is contstantly promoting his own blog in this space. This is the guy that will only find fault with the program and by his own admission doesn’t buy season tickets. Advocating change is fine….a constant barrage of negative comments does not improve anything and does have an impact on the image of the University. Seems to me that if you can’t find something positive about the program once in a while, it might be time to find a new school to be a “fan” of……
OS_Beaver says:
Jul 9, 2012
I am a huge fan of Oregon State as a university. Just not a big fan of giving a guy 15+ years to get to an above average bowl which Riley hasn’t done yet.
John Spencer is a likeable guy too and only got 1.5 years as HC of the Timbers. Nothing wrong with giving a college coach 5, maybe 6 years but by year 7 or 8 or 9 or…….you have to produce or that gets old.
Tagup says:
Jul 9, 2012
Sure you are……your such a huge fan that you won’t buy tickets! Your blog (and your posts here) show me all you want to do is bitch…and I for one am not interested in your poorly researched and frankly half-cocked commentary.
Pos0x45 says:
Jul 10, 2012
“poorly researched” I think you give him too much credit. From reading his drivel, it seems his research is not a whole lot more than looking up the anual win/loss record and a couple details about Mike Riley’s contract.
OS_Beaver, you should take a look at cfbmatrix.com. The guy who put that site together analyzes statistical data in a variety of ways, He gives explanations of how and why he used each type of analysis, and presents conclusions based on the results of those analyses.
He covers all AQ conferences and has been able to accurately predict around 80% of game outcomes 6 months prior to kickoff. He does not push to have things different than they are, he simply reports.
Here’s a quote from his site: “You may find some, if not many of our observations and opinions not in line with yours or the mainstream media. However, the facts and numbers speak for themselves and the information contained in this website is simply the result of what the data tells us. We do not have a bias to the facts, nor do we let emotion play a part in our statistics, rankings and predictions. We simply want to be correct and factual. We know that we cannot get it all right. But we can come close and at the same time create a profile of expectations for each team.”
And the guy lives in Eugene, is a Duck fan, and buys season tickets. I say this because you wouldn’t know it from reading any of his articles, he had it posted in the “About CFM” section of his web site.
You could learn a lot from this guy’s site if you really wanted to publish non biased articles. In the meantime, you should be honest with people and sell your site for what it truly is, an emotionally fueled, completely unresearched, totally biased forum for complaining about things.
This is why I recanted my original post and suggested that people who do the same thing here should just do over at your site and quit polluting this forum with endless “fire Mike Riley” tirades.
OSU4Life says:
Jul 5, 2012
Bob DeCarolis should include added bonuses to Rileys contract if he has a winning record before October, and for winning the Civil War. I wonder if that would help eliminate the 11 years worth of slow starts, and losing the Civil War 5 years in a row for Riley? Here’s an honest question; will Mike Riley ever have a 4-0 or a 5-0 start at OSU?
(*5 years includes this years Civil War, because we all know what the result is going to be.)
dunerat says:
Jul 5, 2012
OSU should never risk more than 1 non conference loss. Its too important for a school like OSU to risk not going to any Bowl Game. The extra practice times are more important than the Big Paycheck for a loss philosify. Unless you do get a return game period.
beaversforme says:
Jul 8, 2012
Blah Blah Blah!! This game is three more years away. We have three football seasons ahead before Michigan. I understand people want wins to go to a bowl game, and more than likely we have no chance of winning, but lets hold the complaining until after the 2014 season. By than we will know if we have any chance. My big concern right now is the lack of recruits right now. Typically at this time we have at least five to eight recruits committed.
WFO says:
Jul 10, 2012
These types of games hurt recruiting. Is it better to go to Michigan/Penn St/Wisconsin and get blown out on national TV for a payday, or to schedule easier games and get to even a lower tier bowl?
Which one is going to look better to a potential recruit? I would say not much looks worse that getting your guts stomped out *AGAIN* on TV,especially if the loss costs you a bowl game.
Tagup says:
Jul 10, 2012
c’mon really? No recruit thinks he is going to get his “guts stomped out” and I think most would look forward to playing in front of 100,000 people in a legendary stadium!
I agree that a win and a bowl berth make more sense to the program but kids would love the Michigan venue!