The Beavers are not feeling good about the seaosn.
The Oregon State football team’s rushing offense fell to 119th in the country out of 120 teams after Saturday’s performance in the 23-6 loss to California.
Read my full story in Monday’s GT on how the Beavers are still dedicated to the running game.
The Beavers average 87.8 yards a game rushing. Only Miami (Ohio) is worse at 77.2 yards a game.
The pass offense (280.7 ypg) ranks 20th in the country and fourth in the Pac-12 Conference. The total offense (368.5 ypg) is 10th in the Pac-12 and scoring offense (20.3 ppg) is last in the conference and 105th nationally.
The rush defense (183.7 ypg) ranks 11th in the Pac-12 with the pass defense (211.3 ypg) second, total defense (395.0 ypg) sixth and scoring (30.0) seventh.
QB Sean Mannion keeps throwing since there's no running game.
The tackles for a loss is last in the conference and 114th nationally with 4.0 a game. Turnover margin is 11th in the Pac-12 and tied for 100th in the country at minus-0.7.
Individually, PK Trevor Romaine is tied for the lead in the Pac-12 in field goals made with 1.4 a game, or 14, but he he has missed seven and has a .667 percentage.
Romaine also his his ninth touchback of the season to extend his OSU single-season record, charted since 2007 when kickoffs where moved back to the 30-yard line.
QB Sean Mannion passed for 247 yards in the game. That was his ninth game of 200 or more yards.
LB Rueben Robinson suffered a concussion in the game, coach Mike Riley said Sunday night. He’s questionable for Saturday’s game with Washington.
OT Mike Remmers is having an MRI done on his knee. He was injured in the first quarter and played through the pain. “There’s no swelling, so it’s precautionary,” Riley said. “There doesn’t appear to be nothing scary there right now.”
C Geoff Garner is having an MRI on his shoulder done. “He has had some trouble with it, and it got worse in the game,” Riley said.
C Grant Johnson (ankle) is scheduled to practice Tuesday, so if Garner can’t go Johnson will return to the starting lineup.
WR Brandin Cooks returned kickoffs for CB Jordan Poyer because Riley wanted to see what he could do, and give Poyer a break.
29 comments
Ben says:
Nov 13, 2011
Honestly, who really cares. Injuries aren’t going to matter at this point. We certainly don’t need those official stats to know our team is awful. I’m really hoping this is the year that the basketball team makes some noise
OSU4Life says:
Nov 13, 2011
I know I said in an earlier post that “I wouldn’t waste my time commenting about OSU football” but I had to question something. Why did OSU wait until the 10th game of the season to “see what Brandin Cooks could do on kickoffs”? Didn’t the coaching staff “know what Brandin Cooks could do” when they recruited him? His first kickoff return was for 44 yards! Those who have watched practices, could see his abilities! Nothing against Poyer, but he needed a break from kickoff duties earlier in the season. Especially since he is a starting corner, along with the primary punt returner. Both Jordan Poyer and Brandin Cooks are playmakers.
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rileysafraud says:
Nov 13, 2011
Hoping for a good baseball season! Hopefully Casey won’t bench the number one starter so he can call it a rebuilding year!
rileysafraud says:
Nov 13, 2011
And lose almost every game!
Beaver1977 says:
Nov 13, 2011
Now that someone has brought up basketball….did I miss something about the uniforms?? What’s with the blue?????….could have sworn that our school colors are orange and black.
Cliff Kirkpatrick says:
Nov 13, 2011
Special Native American celebration thing.
Matt says:
Nov 13, 2011
The pass defense stat is misleading. Why pass when you can get 10 yards per carry running against us and when Banker refuses to adjust from his “base” D? Teams aren’t passing because they don’t have to and thus we are No.2 in the conference against the pass by default.
The explanations/excuses this coaching staff has given this year in response to our struggles is embarrassing. There is absolutely no accountability but furthermore there are no alternatives presented in terms of changing the results. Riley’s response to many of the questions is: “We have to continue to try and get better.”
They continue to go through their routine/boring motions, practicing their routine/boring plays, and thus getting the same results over and over again. The schemes have worked in the past but we have different players who obviously can’t succeed in the scheme now. Why not tweak it? You seriously have NOTHING to lose…
This is now the second game I have questioned Banker’s defensive game prep. Utah had a horribly struggling QB. Why didn’t we sell out against the run? Cal has had a horribly struggling QB. Why didn’t we sell out against the run? We just sat there in our base D and got run over…again.
This season’s end cannot come soon enough. I’ll be anxious to see what changes (if any…) will be made this offseason. If Riley is as truly committed to OSU football as he proclaims he is then he’ll have to prioritize the team over his buddy-buddy relationships and cut ties with some people who should have lost their jobs quite a long time ago. If he can’t do that then he shouldn’t be a head football coach.
Matt says:
Nov 13, 2011
Cliff,
You’re as close to the football program as anyone. Say the Beavs lose their last two games to UW and OSU. That puts this team at 2-10 for the year. In your opinion, does Riley keep his job? I think the answer is yes. Secondly, do you foresee him making any MAJOR changes to his coaching staff if this happens?
Cliff Kirkpatrick says:
Nov 14, 2011
Riley has a contract that’s too much to buy out. That’s why there’s no heat on Riley.
All the media know it’s just not possible for OSU to fire him.
And then it’s up to Riley if the staff changes. And that’s unlikely with him, but not impossible.
OSU doesn’t have big donors like other programs who can go to the AD and say force him to make a change or we are taking our money elsewhere.
FM says:
Nov 13, 2011
Me not Cliff, but Riley 100% keeps his job ( see lifetime contract an no ” beaverbucks” to buy this out). He in my opinion will make a major shuffle in his staff but not until after letter of intent signing day…..any changes sooner will dissolve what’s left of a very good recruiting class so far. Correct Cliff?
dili says:
Nov 14, 2011
Cliff I will agree with you as far as Riley’s history of sticking with his coaches even when they demonstrate ineptitude (i.e. Langsdorf), and therefore the potential is likely that he will let things continue to rapidly deteriorate, back to the era of Pettibone, Fertig and Avazanno. The only saving grace I see is that many of us season ticket holders will not renew for next year and when the fan base dwindles to a certain point, President Ed may be forced somehow to intervene. This sounds unlikely, but Phil Knight apparently sometiimes quietly contributes to our school and possibly he could be approached to buy out Riley’s ncontract. I know, I know, if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
bbb says:
Nov 14, 2011
cliff-
have you noticed that #3 (anthony watkins?) SS on defense is just a god awful open field tackler. the last 3 weeks ive seen him get run over, ohlay!, and just flat out tackle air. who is responsible for getting this guy up to speed on making a tackle? why is he on the field. even if we are super thin at the postion why not play a young kid who wants to hit somebody at this point. btw, isnt he small for his position?
Cliff Kirkpatrick says:
Nov 14, 2011
He didn’t have a good game against Cal.
However, he has been doing a solid job.
He’s making more tackles than a safety should.
Why is he on the field? He’s the best option right now.
And DB coach Keith Heyward and S coach Mitch Meeuwsen work with him, Meeuwsen mostly.
bbb says:
Nov 14, 2011
he has had 3 straight terrible games. not just one. utah game he was really bad on very key plays. he is decent in pass coverage but cant tackle worth a lick. he looks timmid out there.
D. says:
Nov 14, 2011
To the objective observer, Watkins is not a good player. Robinson, Collins, and Watkins are the biggest problems with the defense.
Bob says:
Nov 14, 2011
Cliff,
I am a die-hard Beaver fan and support both the team and the current coach. That being said, do you believe Coach Riley has any clue of how he is being perceived by the average fan and probably potential players as well? He continues to say the same things over and over(“we are improving”, “we are going to try to run the ball” “the players are making too many mistakes”, “we will remain positive”, etc, etc, etc) . Everyone I talk to feels that he has basically given up in terms of ever really being a top notch program. The Beavers no longer hit like they used to, nor is there any spirit, passion,etc. We all know of situations where someone is in total denial of what is really going on. Am I way off base in thinking that is what is occuring here?
Cliff Kirkpatrick says:
Nov 14, 2011
Riley knew it was going to be a rough year with a young team. He was quoted by me as so before the season. People didn’t like that he said that and I put it in print.
So he was prepared for a bad year. He, of course, didn’t think it was going to be that bad.
What else is he going to say? We suck and plan to forfeit the rest of the games. That he quits and storms off into the woods and cry.
Whatever job you have, if something isn’t working you keep working to make it work. He’s unfortunate that he’s in a very visible/public job. So people wonder why it doesn’t magically get fixed.
BeaverDon says:
Nov 14, 2011
Cliff,
For me the issue with Riley is I see him trying to make the same Offense and Defense work. He is not willing to try out anything new or make any adjustments.
Bob says:
Nov 14, 2011
Thanks for your response Cliff.
Your answer makes good sense.
However would it be so difficult for Coach Reily to show some real emotion and passion and be more specific about what he plans to do to “right the ship”?
OSUSupporter says:
Nov 14, 2011
It’s hard to imagine that on October 10, 2010 a little over a year ago, OSU was ranked #24 in the nation in the AP poll. That was right after we beat a (highly overrated) Arizona team and were sitting at 3-2.
Since then, we are 4-13 and heading down a dark, slippery slope. We have regressed back to the years when winning the Civil War would make our season no matter what we did with the rest of the games.
We deserve better. We need more. We need passion. We need a winning culture. We need new coaches.
bbb says:
Nov 14, 2011
hey cliff-
one more thing about the safties. IF (and i know im getting ahead of myself) hardin was granted a 6th year (yes i know there is a 5% chance) wouldnt it finally make sense to play him at SS next year. our CB’s are decent and we have far less depth at safety. hardin could come up and bang people in run support and move watkins to more of a rover, cover guy.
pfbeaver says:
Nov 14, 2011
It seems like most of our problems hinge off of Oline play. I think we’ve got the receiving core to make some noise in the pac-12, and our QB is pretty good already. Cliff how long do you think it will take us to put together a decent oline?
Cliff Kirkpatrick says:
Nov 14, 2011
two years
bbb says:
Nov 14, 2011
pfbeaver-
we have pleanty of problems and yes the o-line is a huge one. we, however are discussing the defensive back field.
pfbeaver says:
Nov 14, 2011
Yea.. Sorry about that. I hit the reply button in the wrong place. I didn’t mean for that post to be tabbed over.
floridabeav says:
Nov 14, 2011
Cliff: If it means anything, I think you are doing a better job. Congratulations.
Cliff Kirkpatrick says:
Nov 14, 2011
I just try to stay the course and get better.
Where have I heard that before?
OSU4Life says:
Nov 14, 2011
That’s funny! I get it, I get it! Ba Dum Dum Dum, Chhh!
Walt says:
Nov 15, 2011
I think Riley is complacent, old thinking, and tired. He and his crony coaching staff are making a laughing stock of the OSU football program, When Quiz left Riley gave up; But, why should he care? He has two more years to pad his retirement chest before we can get something new minds, and spirit into the program. Oh well, it’s a building year, and they are improving; Improving in the negative direction.