Read more about OSU’s situation in my Tuesday story in the GT. To follow up on that, here’s a bowl situation story. I talked with the Holiday Bowl and Alamo Bowl folks Saturday in Rose Bowl.
Let’s put it this way. The Beavers can reach the Holiday Bowl with six wins. That story shows why.
Here’s a link to the Washington State scouting report to show what the Beavers face. The numbers are just brutal for the Cougars.
Safe passes
Quarterback Ryan Katz has a 3-to-1 ratio for touchdown passes to interceptions thrown. If he keeps that through the season it would tie the best mark by a coach Mike Riley starter at any level, and that includes the NFL and CFL. Last year’s starter, Sean Canfield, has the record with 21 TDs and seven interceptions.
Special team stars
Three reserve defensive players are in competition for the most special teams tackles. CB Rashaad Reynolds, linebackers Devin and Kevin Unga are tied with 10 each.
17 comments
SnohoBeav says:
May 18, 2012
Holiday Bowl big shooters are trying to tell us bringing a former Chargers head coach, who was fired, back to SD with his mediocre football team is a selling point? I'm not buying it. I'm 100% Beaver fan to the core, but I just don't buy that line. I fear that when it comes pick 'em time the Holiday (and Sun) are going to look at how many TVs are in a school's market and that will trump all. Despite recent success, OSU still isn't a "national draw" for TV sets.
Thanks to Larry "Pick 'em" Scott, finishing 2nd or 3rd doesn't mean you're going to get the 2nd or 3rd place bowl game. The 2nd place bowl (Alamo) has the second pick, so they can take any bowl-eligible team, regardless of record or head-to-head.
WebTraveler says:
May 18, 2012
Not sure it is really Larry Scott.
The bowl will pay more money if it gets to select the team. The Pac 10 Presidents have, more or less, given Scott the authority to do what he needs to do to raise revenue.
BeaverDon says:
May 18, 2012
Cliff,
I have to agee with SnohoBeav. You must be really wanting to get to San Diego. If the Beavs won all of our remaining games, maybe. But the Holiday has had chances at the Beavers the last two years and passed. They have had the 2nd choice until this year when the Pac-10 hooked up with the Alamo Bowl. And hasn't the Holiday Bowl been saying the Beavers were high on their list for several years? The Alamo is going for TV revenue and name recognition, and that means Stanford maybe Arizona. The only national recognition the Beavers have is for playing the Penn State, LSUs, and TCUs and getting beat. Look for the Alamo and Holiday to take Stanford and Arizona and the Sun to take Cal, IF the Beavers get 6 wins look for them in the KraftFightHunger Bowl….
ckirkpatrick says:
May 18, 2012
Holiday by contract has to take the No. 2 Pac-10 in the standings. There was no choice for them. That's why they passed on OSU. Now they have the pick. They said they want to avoid Arizona because they were there last year and that they want OSU, Stanford and UCLA in that order because they have not been to the bowl game.
If OSU is bowl eligible, there will only be four – maybe five – pac-10 bowl teams. So the worst Pac-10 will be going to the Sun Bowl. If there are four, it will be the pick of the Holiday Bowl to take Arizona and OSU. Well, where will the Beavers being going?
osbeavs says:
May 18, 2012
Cliff, we finished tied for second last year. My understanding is that the old Pac-10 bowl contract would allow the 2nd place bowl to select any of the 2nd place teams. The Holiday Bowl could have selected us last year if they had really wanted. We did end up going to the 5th place bowl game after all. The Pac-10 tie-ins didn't always select according to contract, they made modifications when they wanted.
ckirkpatrick says:
May 18, 2012
No. It could not. Arizona had the tiebreaker. They had to take Arizona. Bowl officials told me they were disappointed they couldn't take OSU.
GoBeavs64 says:
May 18, 2012
NCDuck , If you can keep your comments constructive and non inflammatory I am sure that most everyone here is ok with your contributing , but other wise you need to keep your smart ass diggs at the Beavs to yourself . Last year , I and some other Beavers tried to post positive , supportive , commiserating comments about all the negative things that were happening at the U of O , yes , there was an occasional rogue Beaver who jumped on the chance to diss the Ducks and gloat about their troubles but I myself and several other Beavers did the right thing and asked them to show some dignity , class and respect and remember that our school could just as easily go through things like the O was at the time . I felt bad about all that happened , especially regarding Masoli , even though I am a committed Beaver , I still had alot of admiration and respect for his and the team's abilities and success and I tried to make that known in the Eugene Register Guard Blog. However , some Duck fans took offense even when we Beavers tried to be supportive and kept telling us to leave , so I did.
I am asking you now as an adult , to show us the same respect and let us commiserate among ourselves or be respectful and constructive when posting input . We should remember , this is only a school rivalry , it is only a game , a sport and means nothing really when it all comes down to it . The National Championship is just a mythical championship . It doesn't make the Ducks or anyone else who wins it the supreme ruler or God . You may own us in football for the time being , we may own you in basketball and baseball , but in the grand scheme of things it means nothing . We are all from the same state and should have pride whenever any of our citizens or schools do well on a national level .
OSU4life says:
May 18, 2012
Get lost troll.
GoBeavs64 says:
May 18, 2012
Let the Duck mucker rant all he wants , Oregon's down fall is coming it may or may not be to the Beavs but like the Rose Bowl , they won't be able to finish the whole act , it's one thing to get to the big game and another to win it . This year they will probably face someone better than Ohio State and really get their clocks cleaned . They will I believe eventually face a team with a coach that is way beyond anything Chip Kelly and the Ducks hope to be . Before you respond to this post Duck butter don't bother you won't get tit for tat from me and don't write back claiming all us Beavs are jealous. Whats to be jealous of , so you got a sugar daddy who has no fashion sense ( whats the point of white letters against a white back ground and those feathers make no sense either , feathers , wings , whatever are the sign of a regal bird , war bird even , neither apply to the Ducks and out of your entire schedule this season you have faced TWO marquis teams the rest have all been high school level so I have no respect for your ranking , Auburn should be sitting where you are . Btw , 170 more fans kicked out of Autzen for stupidity and drunkedness , really classy . Ive been to less than a dozen Beav games in my life but I have yet to see anything like that at Reser. There are alot of good Duck fans out there but obviously you are among the idiot minority
GoBeavs64 says:
May 18, 2012
NC , must stand for No Class
osbeavs says:
May 18, 2012
Can you read? The piece clearly shows that any non-BCS pac-10 affiliate can select any pac-10 team it wants provided it is bowl eligible.
NC_Ducks says:
May 18, 2012
First of all when Oregon beats you by 30 this year I think you should give us some respect. Secondly in regards to the big game, at liest we made it last year. Better to lose the big one then get BLOW OUT IN THE LITTLE ONE. And the feathers on the jersey are symbolic for flying high, which they have done. Better than you're sports brae jerseys. And the sugar daddy who has no fasion sense is allowingthe beavers to wear special jerseys for the civil war this year, which in my opinion are the best looking jerseys the beavers have ever had. And the downfall of the ducks is not coming. Look at the recruiting classes. What we're finally seeing now with the beavers is the result of all their mediocre recruiting classes. I guarentee there isn't a single beaver right now that wouldn't trade spots with oregon. 4-4 with a garbage stadium that they can't sell out vs #1 in nation, 9-0, best facilities in america, nike's golden jewel, and 73 CONSECUTIVE SELLOUTS AT AUTZEN STADIUM. there is nothing wrong with the beavs this year, it's the fans that have a problem. they are in denial about the teams position when in reality you are where you should be and belong!!
NC_Ducks says:
May 18, 2012
Apparently you're not in touch with reality. Yes it does say that as it has in past years but just like in past years it ALWAYS took the second place team and from now on it will ALWAYS take the third place team. Get a clue, Especially this year, do you think that bowl will want your team over arizona?? The answer is NO! I love seeing you guys scrapping for the bottom! It nice to see you back in your place.
ckirkpatrick says:
May 18, 2012
As said before, Holiday Bowl had to take No. 2. No Pac-10 bowl has to take anyone in any spot. They have PICKS.
This year, the Holiday will not take Arizona over OSU with that PICK.
NC_Ducks says:
May 18, 2012
You're correct cliff. They will not pick Arizona over OSU because OSU will not be in the discussion for the holiday bowl. In order for the beavs to be included in the holiday bowl conversation they will need to win three of their four remaining games and I see them at best going 2-2, their best chance being usc at home. realistically i see the beavs finishing the season 5-7. they will need to catch a BUNCH of breaks to be bowl eligible this year.
Ted0 says:
May 18, 2012
Actually OSU just needs to go 2-2 to get into the Holiday bowl. Stanford would go to the Alamo bowl as the 2nd place team. The Holiday bowl then would chose OSU as Cliff keeps mentioning, but for some reason you can't understand.
ckirkpatrick says:
May 18, 2012
Again, you are incorrect. I've told you and everyone else on what the scenario is. It is what it is. It's all up to the Holiday Bowl people to PICK. They had Arizona last year, and what someone new, and that would be OSU or Stanford.